a chance for you all to see the little graphic i made

1320-july28-2004

this post has been edited on july 28, 2004 13:21

see it? over on the right there? it's pretty tight i think.

todo - figure out what the fuck i'm allowed to use to make linebreaks within <blockquote> tags... to the few of you who understand what i'm sorta saying, the
tags that i use to quote aim conversations (see the vote niv post) apparently aren't allowed and are killing my attempts to validate this page as xhtml 1.0 strict. strict is good, so i want to move this way. strict in terms of validation, i mean.

i was working on a new banner graphic, but chad vetoed it. we'll see if what i was working on turns into something l actually like.

i'm working on a page for the philadelphia trust company. i have to submit a proposal next week. my work in progress can be seen over here. it's all very standards-based. this is another good thing. critiques are welcome, so have at it.

i was talking to zack again today... hell, i talk to him every day i'm at work, so i don't know why i announce it. but anyways, talking to zack, and we decided that a better social system would have young people retired until they turn 35 or somethign and then start working. of course, this system is stupid because young people get more work done (energy and whatnot) and thus should not waste their "useful" years having "fun". at the same time, a lot of people who read this site just graduated. how many of you are prepared to work in an office for the rest of your lives? i don't care how fun your office is, are you prepared to be in an office of some kind five days a week for the next 40+ (ha, more like 50+) years of your life? we used to get 3 weeks off for winter break and a week off for spring break, not to mention the three months that compromised summer vacation. now we get two weeks off a year, with weekends (unless you are ryan) and a handful of holidays.

now, i'm not saying your job isn't fun. i'm sure it is. i like my job fine too. it really doesn't matter, though, how wonderfully purple the walls of my office are, or how you may get to run around all day and you feel like you're affecting things on a large scale - i feel like no matter how much you like work, it's qualified by the fact that it is work. how many recently graduated twentysomethings would rather work than chill out in whatever way they chose?

now, pose the same question to your parents, who have worked for 20-40 years, and see what they say.

now, be afraid, because you're going to get used to working almost every single day of your life to the point where you can't imagine just chilling out... or at least, where you can't imagine a time where chilling out was the primary thing to do, as opposed to an extremely secondary thing to do.

now the point isn't to get you depressed or anything. the point is the find a solution. there is a solution here, i think. there is a way to structure one's life so that they aren't hit with a 40 year block of just working, but also so that they aren't hit with a block of time when they are forced to panhandle or something. my solution seems to line up well with my interests - i want to get better at this whole design thing, to the point where i can design for other people, work about 20 hours a week, and still pay the rent, bills, and whatever. it's not impossible, because of the kind of fees one can charge as an able web designer. the steps to get there involve working on my site a ton, getting lucky with connections like zack and the philadelphia trust company, and wow-ing the crap out of people.

so, i have a plan. kind of. it seems difficult from where i am now, but i think i can do it.

my question to you is this - do you want to work less a week? do you think work is a priority or secondary? do you have a plan on how to work less a week (if you are interested in such a thing)? why do you like working a full week (if you aren't interested in working less)? the floor is yours.

comments

re: fuck work

from: Zack (2004-07-28 14:07:15)

obviously, my opinion has been stated already, in the post and in the title, but i will reiterate, for the sake of commenting...cause i like when there are comments.

1) I do want to work less than a week. i feel like four days working, and four days off is sufficient. i know that doesn't add up to a seven day week but who cares. and what fucking idiot set this system up in the first place. its dumb

2)i don't think work SHOULD be a priority, but i recognize in today's (or rather American) society, that it is a priority. Somehow your worth as a human being is judged partly by how hard and how much you work?? again, who the fuck came up with this system?

3)I don't have a plan for working less than a week, other than the four days on four days off thing stated above. But let me point out, and ask the opinion of others here...the truth is that i only get about four days of work done in a five day week anyway, if that. So what's the point in working days where nothing is acomplished?

In conclusion (and i apologize for the length of this response) i'd like to say, that 'work' is a subjective term. somehow, somewhere a line was drawn between doing what we need to do to live, and doing what we love. there are precious few of us that find ways to live on what we love. and i'd like to say for the record, i'm not a lazy bitch with no work ethic...i love to work, when its something i care about. i'd be here seven days a week if i could give a shit, and if i felt like i was getting something accomplished. but i don't, and i'm not. i'm a cog, in a wheel, and like any piece of machinery, i'm gonna wear out eventually.

re: my .02

from: ken (2004-07-28 15:02:19)

I agree with zack in that the type of job you have makes a big difference. Going from teaching 6th graders to working at pfizer (cog) is a huge change. Not that I don't any less at pfizer or I regret being here; but it was a lot easier to stay focused on the task at hand when there were 20 kids looking to you for guidance, and I felt a lot happier at the end of the day teaching than I do here. Looking 10 years down the road; I'd probably be ok with teaching, but would go insane if I stayed as a lab tech.

re: let me remove this noose from my neck...

from: chad (2004-07-28 15:08:30)

Having suffered a near anxiety attack after reading that post...at my desk, I might add...i have a couple things to point out.

I "chill out" more now than I did before. After the work day ends I can go out, play Xbox, read, do whatever. Every night. There is no home work, there is no extracurricular activities, nothing. Just what I WANT to do.

And the way I see it, work only REALLY takes up a couple hours a day. If I didn't work, I would sleep until noon. Well, as it is, I work that time and then have lunch, so really, i am only working 4 hours of time I would otherwise be "chilling out." Plus, I spend a good amount of time at work talking to coworkers or reading websites or emailing people. So really...no big deal.

And Niv, I think your plan may be flawed. You are forgetting that the generations behind us will have more and more capable web designers, meaning that those wonderful fees you mentioned will start to decline before long.

However, my plan is as follows:

In a the presumed world we work an 8 hour day, 9-to-5. But, really, who wouldn't be ok with 8-to-6 instead? I would be fine with that. Well, if we worked 10 hours a day, 8-to-6 4 days a week, you have your 40 hour week, plus you eliminate a lunch hour which actually makes the 40 hours more productive. Then...three day weekends for all!!

The problem here is that I end up working 9 or 10 hours a day quite often, and while the jump from 8 to 10 hour days doesn't sound bad, if I am REALLY working a 45-50 hour week, my 4 days will require 12 hours a day. And that...that would suck.

re: comment

from: ken (2004-07-28 15:42:55)

really, right now a lot of people work 45-50 hour work weeks. If you're salaried it's almost a given that if you want to be promoted, you put in unpaid overtime at most jobs.

one thing they do at pfizer is have 'summer hours', where you work a nominal 9 hours a day mon-thursday, and then come in for 4 hours on friday 8-12, and have afternoons off. It's nice but I end up staying to 2:30 or later on fridays anyway.

re: Summer hours

from: Chad (2004-07-28 16:32:04)

Summer hours are amazing. Even if you end up working more overall, the fact that everyone is ok with you leaving by 2:30 or 3 (that, in fact, this constitutes working overtime) is fantastic. Apparently Edelman (the PR firm I work at) used to do summer hours, but now we get "balance days" instead...3 additional vacation days to be used between memorial day and labor day. Which reminds me...I have to use those days.

 

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