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so i'm a pretty outspoken critic of pink floyd. "self-indulgent crap" i'd always say. i stand by this. however, comfortably numb is an amazing song. just incredible. still self-indulgent though. i just guess unlike most pink floyd songs, i can relate to this one. this one and the entire wish you were here cd. and dark side of the moon if you're watching the wizard of oz. i guess i just don't like the wall. except for this song. i'm full of contradictions. are you dizzy yet?

run dmc is far from the most influential rap band of all time. i'm pretty sure i'm on solid ground with this one. it only takes 3 letters, 'd', 'r', and 'e' to understand why run-dmc was more of a precursor than the real deal (pixies to dre's nirvana).

geoff is insistent that comfortably numb isn't good. maybe he's right. i really don't like pink floyd. honestly.

album/song of the year in my next post. since thats the only pop culture i pay attention to.

comments

re: music:self-indulgence::living:breathing

from: zach (2004-12-27 11:26:25)

music in particular, and art in general, is all about putting the deepest parts of you on display for the public. the display of any art is in its very nature the most self-indulgent and narcissistic excersize there is. no band that any of us have ever heard, isn't self-indulgent.

re: and thus...

from: niv (2004-12-27 12:35:14)

so what does that tell you about pink floyd?

re: ...duh

from: zach (2004-12-27 13:58:04)

that they are self-indulgent.

but that labeling them as such as criticism is a little redundant. since every other band, famous or otherwise, is self-indulgent as well.

re: no...

from: niv (2004-12-27 16:59:44)

it means in my mind they are so fucking self-indulgent that i find it necessary to go out of my way to talk about it and even criticize them about it.

re: well

from: zach (2004-12-27 18:47:11)

such is your perogative. even if you're wrong.

ps - i dig the new portal.

re: ahh

from: niv (2004-12-27 19:57:10)

the classic weiser gambit. good move, friend.

re: weiser?

from: zach (2004-12-28 11:55:27)

...i got that one from you buddy.

re: in that case

from: niv (2004-12-28 12:46:25)

you're wrong. pink floyd is overrated.

re: this is a stupid discussion

from: zach (2004-12-28 13:00:17)

never said they weren't.

all bands are overrated within certain circles.

see: weezer; you.

re: you started it

from: niv (2004-12-28 14:54:35)

you should go back and read what you said and explain to me exactly what the point of that comment was, then. mr smarty pants.

p.s. listen to that shit i sent you

re: as heads is tails just call me lucifer

from: zach (2004-12-28 15:22:50)

i was merely pointing out that since all art is self-indulgent and overrated, singling one particular artist out as particularly so is contingent purely on individual perception. therefore, a discussion on such a topic is, well, stupid. as our ensuing back and forth proved.

i was bored.
and bothering you gives me jollies.

ps-i'll listen to that stuff tonight. looking forward to it.

re: yes?

from: er (2004-12-28 21:24:07)

Did some one say my name? I have a gambit? What? I'm confused.

Any band that creates an album whose tracks synchronize with "The Wizard of Oz" I classify as more self indulgent than most bands.

And yes, that is my individual perception.

ps - Fine, but you're wrong.

 

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