mixtapes

0946-march06-2005

this post has been edited on march 8, 2005 09:38

how do you make a mixtape? i think i do ok with these things in general. no, better than ok. i make pretty good mixes for people. do you find that your mixes are lame? no one likes them but you? you don't even like them after a week? well, i have a few rules for you.

1. know your audience
it may seem like this rule is almost directly lifted from high fidelity. you'll notice a few rules seem to be lifted from high fidelity, but just because high fidelity discussed these things in open does not mean that the author of high fldelity invented mix tapes. anyways:
... I've started to make a tape... in my head... for Laura. Full of stuff she likes. Full of stuff that make her happy. For the first time I can sort of see how that is done.
the last part is important. full of stuff _she_ likes. you aren't making the mix for yourself.

--side note: i always thought that instead of stevie wonder, this scene should end with an art garfunkel song. i mean, the movie ends with marvin gaye, which is completely the right call. but seriously, if she likes art garfunkel AND marvin gaye, as we all know at this point, there needs to be an art garfunkel song in the movie somewhere. end side note --

anyways, you're making the disc for two reasons:
1. entirely for someone else (preferred)
2. because you are too impatient to listen to a goddamn album straight through

now don't get me wrong, i'm as gulity of number 2 as anyone else. but you have to remember this - you will have that mix on in your car at some point with other people in your car too, unless you are very careful. so just make sure your mixes aren't painful. for the general good. of course, if you are making the tape for someone else, its a different ball game. as john cusack says, "you're using someone else's poetry to express how you feel". the music is transcending its original purpose, in a way.

i hope you can all see the difference between "using songs to express yourself to someone else" and "don't wanna listen to a full album because either the album sucks or you're impatient".

anyways, this is the point. you need to know who you're making the mix for. if you're making it for someone else, pay attention to the songs. don't put american woman on a mix to any girl you like. ever. stuff like that.

if you're making the mix for your car / yourself... i mean unless you're a complete self-involved asshole, at least make it listenable for other people. please. we're all begging you. that was the point of this post. make sure to put at least two songs on the mix for people who frequent your car. AT LEAST two songs. and if you insist on making a completely selfish mix (i'll admit it, i've done this a few times), please please please hide it from everyone else. because the point of the personal mix is that you like music that other people don't like. i mean, we live in a society. unless you want to go to the work of explaining why each song is 'amazing omg the best song ever'...

2. band:song ratio
so i proposed the one song per band rule. it received good reviews, and its a rule i've tried to follow for a while. except that isn't true. i was talking to geoff the other day, and he told me about a cd i made for him full of covers / acoustic stuff that he did not have access too, basically. i think i just invented a third reason to make mix tapes. anyways, the point is the cd had multiple songs by soundgarden, bush, and the deftones on it. this was the key though - there was a pattern. i opened with soundgarden covering the beatles. i had multiple songs in a row by each band too. kind of like a documentary format, instead of trying to be cutesy with it. i think this is the best way to handle multiple bands on a single mix - don't be cutesy with it. come up with a pattern, a symmetry, something - but don't just throw songs on the cd all willy-nilly without thinking about the order. in fact, this needs to be its own section

3. track ordering
You gotta kick off with a killer, to grab attention. Then you got to take it up a notch, but you don't wanna blow your wad, so then you got to cool it off a notch. There are a lot of rules.
think of it like a baseball line up. track one needs to be fast and it has to be a proven song that can get on base - it shouldn't hit it out of the park, just get things going. two should be like one, only a little weaker. three and four is where you put your big guns - no long ballads yet, but the strongest songs on your mix belong in the 3/4 slots. 5 should be like a number 5 hitter - the guy who strikes out enough to make you nervous, but hits enough homers to not be a giant drop off from 3/4. the point is, your target audience should feel 'meh' about 5 at the worst, and 5 should blow them away enough times that its ultimately worth it.

now, unlike baseball, you aren't putting anyone in your lineup for defense or because you have nothing better, so don't throw the song equivalent of adam kennedy in at track 8. in fact, i'm a strong proponent of a 13 track cd having its best songs these slots (in order) 8, 4, 1. track 13 is not your worse song - anything you feel nervous about should be buried in between 4 and 8.. but let's be honest, don't put anything you don't have full confidence in on the cd.

this is, by far, the most important aspect of the mix. it seperates the good ones from the great ones.

4. hints
time to open up the vault and share some of my favorite moves. this stuff is all pretty important to me, so parse at your leisure but please don't make fun. i put some work into this.

that's all i got. comments are open.

comments

re: i wish i had friends i could make mixes for

from: zach (2005-03-07 14:20:33)

could you spend some time on reconciling playlists with mixtapes?

for example. i'm a big fan of the epic playlist. i have four that hover right around 45-50 songs each. i thought they would translate well to a mix. so i divided them up and burned them over several cds.

it doesn't translate.

the theme i was going for in the playlists (and it works when played on my computer and ipod) is lost when played on cd in my car.

i've thought about parsing them down to more concise versions. and in a way i know that would make them more powerful. but i can't bring myself to cut that many of the songs.

your thoughts...

re: the power of technology

from: niv (2005-03-07 14:40:40)

buy a fm transmitter or a tape adapter and use the ipod in your car :)

seriously, the 4 cd mix is damn near impossible to pull off. you need to have 4 cds that stand alone... kind of like ... i dunno what. the only albums i have that are more than 2 discs tend to be on the box set / limited edition side of things, so i don't think artists are putting out 4 cd albums. so i think you can safely say you shouldn't be putting out 4 cd mixes.

then again, technology...

re: i wish i weren't technology's bitch....but i am

from: zach (2005-03-07 14:56:10)

yeah i've been thinking about the fm transmitters. i hear they can be spotty in urban areas. especially the ones built specifically for the ipod, which have a limited band of available frequencies.

yet i'm still considering it. cause i am technology's bitch

re: fm transmitters are stupid like that

from: niv (2005-03-07 15:26:44)

the ones that are ipod-only suck. get either the belkin one that i got or, if you are more patient and willing to learn from my mistakes, get the iriver one. the belkin one is more expensive in stores, but it is in stores, unlike the iriver one. also, this response box needs to be bigger (noted). also, the iriver one gets stronger reviews, but as you see it is $15 more.

ok thats all.

re: didn't know you had one

from: zach (2005-03-07 15:33:29)

thanks for the advice. i agree that the response box needs to be bigger.

re: yes you did

from: niv (2005-03-07 15:35:15)


moving on, i also scored a belkin fm transmitter.


re: goddamnit

from: scooter bob (2005-03-07 15:49:23)

i hate it when you're right.
i thought i remembered something.
but maybe it was a dream

this box is too big.

re: fm transmitters

from: chad (2005-03-08 16:41:55)

interesting that you have such negative feelins towards the ipod-only transmitter. everyone i know who has one seems to think it works fine, and those people all live in chicago, which i am fairly certain qualifies as an "urban area." what is it that "sucks" about them?

re: magic number?

from: er (2005-03-08 22:54:33)

Can you talk more about length. I always end up trying to cram way to many songs on there.

You briefly mentioned a length of 13 tracks? Is that a good rule of thumb? Is it usally just by feel? Is there a recomended time length? 50-60 min?

re: length

from: niv (2005-03-09 14:57:54)

whatever makes you comfortable?

i mean... make your list. see if it drags or feels too short. 30 minutes is too short. 74 minutes, while useful back when cds were expensive and stuff, is overkill these days.

 

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