what motivated me to bring back elscorcho

1031-january19-2006
i was considering leaving elscorcho down until after my march vegas trip. post-vegas, i was planning on buying a new computer and fully moving elscorcho over, but a couple of things made me reconsider leaving this site down for 2 full months

1) i sorta need the machine around to work on other projects.
2) i had a pretty good idea for a post

so with that introduction, here is the question that i wanted to pose to my readership... and i assure you, it is not that good a question.

what is the one concert tour that you COULD have gone to (lets say, over the age of 13 and living in a city where it was possible to go to it) but didn't and wish you had? i guess in other words, what is the one concert that you missed out on and looking back, you really wish you hadn't? SUBQUESTION, now what's the one concert ever that you wish you had attended? if you say woodstock i'm going to punch you in the face.

for my first question, i'd go with foo fighters, 10/19/1997, agora ballroom in cleveland

and the second question is pretty vast, so i'll touch upon it in comments at a later point.

comments

re: this is tough

from: =z (2006-01-19 11:03:32)

its 4 months short of your age cutoff, but my first choice would be Nirvana 11/8/93 at the armory in Philadelphia

sticking to your rules though, i'd have to go with Radiohead 8/24/97 at the Electric Factory in Philly

the one concert all time would definitely be Zepp, but i need some time to find the exact one i wish i had seen

re: i like it

from: niv (2006-01-19 11:13:33)

re: zeppelin, i was thinking i'd go with them too... but didn't they play mostly in arenas? i would imagine they were into arenas by the time they were playing stuff off of III, IV, and Houses live...

arenas are a big negative for me in this exercise.

re: i thought about that

from: =z (2006-01-19 11:20:28)

they played the spectrum in philly in '75 which is an arena
so yeah
i'm sure you're right

but i can't think of another band i wish i'd seen more than them....at least not enough so that the arena factor drops them Zepp below any of them

re: ambiguous pronouns!

from: niv (2006-01-19 11:27:15)

well you just keep thinking then, you crazy person

Because of its integral position within the context of a semi-conceptual album, "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" wasn't the easiest song to cover, but one superstar would do so immediately. Jimi Hendrix opened his June 4, 1967, show at London's Saville Theatre with his own heavy rock version of the number, although the album had only been out for three days. Paul McCartney was in the audience, and seems to regard it as perhaps the most flattering Beatles cover of all, calling it "one of the great honors of my career" in his autobiography.


that woulda been pretty sweet to be at

re: eh...

from: =z (2006-01-19 11:38:38)

i love jimi and all but he's just not that far up there in terms of overall package. and you can't start hanging entire live performances on one song, especially when its a cover.

now that i think about it, my one show all time would probably be some obscure coltrane performance in the village circa 1964-5. but i think it might be almost impossible to nail down the specific one, since he was such a prolific performer

re: radiohead

from: niv (2006-01-19 11:38:47)

do you think in 1997 they'd play anything off of pablo honey? because that would be a terrible waste.

re: hendrix

from: niv (2006-01-19 11:39:44)

what you wrote about hendrix's weaknesses are why i don't listen to hendrix albums.

i think seeing him live in a somewhat intimate setting would be freaking amazing though.

re: radiohead

from: =z (2006-01-19 11:42:41)

24-08-1997 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, USA
setlist: lucky
just
airbag
exit music
karma police
planet telex
electioneering
no surprises
the bends
paranoid android
bones
nice dream
lurgee
talk show host
my iron lung
fake plastic trees
climbing up the walls
creep
polyethylene
street spirit

re: holy shit

from: niv (2006-01-19 11:43:07)

you just blew my mind.

re: yeah

from: =z (2006-01-19 11:45:03)

and you've never seen the Electric Factory
it is
for lack of a less colorful description

fucking tiny

re: check this out

from: niv (2006-01-19 11:46:55)

my eyes are being opened

31-07-1997 The Rage, Vancouver, Canada
Setlist: lucky
my iron lung
airbag
exit music
let down
karma police
paranoid android
climbing up the walls
no surprises
just
fake plastic trees
talk show host
street spirit

review by denise sheppard (Jam! showbiz): "Radiohead and Foo Fighters perform "invite-only" show"
You've all likely heard the expression "it's not what you know but WHO you know." Well, last night in Vancouver, those words were not just uttered, they were lived as hundreds of lucky folks gathered to witness an invite-only performance featuring Radiohead and Foo Fighters. The premise behind the event was that the bands -- both distributed by EMI Records in North America -- were hired to perform for the group's annual convention, this year held in 'beautiful British Columbia.' The problem that regularly occurs with such exclusionary outings is that the attending bands generally hate playing for 'the industry'. Rightly so, as those crowds tend to be indifferent at worst and exhausted at best. In order to tackle the problem, a number of magazines and radio stations hosted contests in both Vancouver and Seattle to double up attendance with enthusiastic ticket winners. By show time, an incredibly packed (1000 capacity) house was filled with an eclectic mix: fans, first-timers, label reps, the press and -- most notably -- musicians of all shapes, sizes and income brackets.

re: i don't think i have a response to that

from: =z (2006-01-19 12:06:57)

this excersize is dangerously close to becoming an allegory for missed opportunity...or squandered youth....or something

the thing that gives me pause about live hendrix (just to revisit) is that i worry you'd have to be either: a) a musical genius, or b) wacked out of your mind on hallucinogens to be able to really appreicate what he was doing


re: hendrix

from: niv (2006-01-19 12:40:05)

you don't have to be a musical genius... just to appreciate a musical genius. and hendrix live was something that they never captured in studio (his bootlegs are infinitely better than studio albums, i think)

eh, just a thought, regardless. i think i should have outlawed all festivals, by the way. way too easy.

re: ok

from: geoff (2006-01-19 14:21:04)

so this question is very clear in stating that only shows that were missed are eligible

- however -

if i had not been at this show, it would have been #1 without a doubt. nothing else even comes close. and as much as i try to come up with anther good option, i keep coming back to this one over and over again.

spring/summer 2000 was the definitive time in the life of geoff, and white pony was the soundtrack to that experience.

plus, niv was in europe and missed it, so thats practically like i missed it (no offense chad! but niv is/was certainly a much bigger deftones fan than you).

july 10, 2000 - the agora, cleveland

Be Quiet and Drive
My Own Summer
Bored
Nosebleed
Root
To Have and to Hold
Change
Lotion
Mascara
Around the Fur
Digital Bath
Fieticeira
Korea
7 Words
--encore--
Stef's little 5 minutes of noise
Headup


if i had to pick another option, it would be nin april 12, 2000. first off, the fragile kicks way more ass than most people think. second, and most important, apc was the opener.

however, it was a) at the convo center and b) before the first apc cd came out, so i really had no idea what i was missing at the time

http://www.theprp.com/bestof/chimaira.html
cant argue with the guys from chimaira!

re: in your faces

from: Trills (2006-01-19 14:31:27)

To start, my first concert that I ever saw was Jimmy Paige and Robert Plant..so does that count as me seeing Zepp???

To answer Niv's first question... I am going with Rage Against the Machine/Wu Tang Clan: Blossom Outdoor Music Center 8/27/1997. I have since seen Wu Tang twice and never got the change to see Rage. Both Wu shows were fun, but something tells me that the mix of the two energies would have been something to see.

Wish I could have attended either Pearl Jam/Mansfield Mass July 11, 2003. They do an acoustic set, followed by the opening band, then they come out to do their full 2 hour show. Or Pearl Jam/Seattle last show of the 2nd leg of their tour in 2000. MONEY

re: trilling sucks

from: niv (2006-01-19 16:17:58)

1a) page+plant != zeppelin
2b) you would choose two concerts that are very very readily available on cd, with better quality than you would get standing at the outdoor venues where they took place.

trilling you suck.

re: Niv sucks

from: Trills (2006-01-19 16:41:05)

Fine, I change my answer to WayneStock...

I'd give my right "I".

re: all-time

from: niv (2006-01-20 10:00:52)

i toyed around with zeppelin... but let's be honest, i'm a beatles man at heart. my all-time show would probably be the impromptu set played on the roof of the apple records building in london. jan 30, 1969, playing songs that would eventually make up "let it be".... yeah, i'll take it. if we're going with paying concerts that were, you know, announced ahead of time, i'd take their last show in candlestick park, august 29, 1966. while neither concert covered the part of the beatles catalog that i liked the most, they are still the freakin beatles.

re: like waking up and seeing the sky is still blue

from: =z (2006-01-20 10:30:20)

you teased me with some sliver of hope when you didn't jump right out with them in the original post that you MIGHT come up with something less predictable
the rooftop show?
you might as well have said woodstock
and after all your bitching about arenas you pick a show in a STADIUM??

i can't really knock the pick though. cause like you said, its the beatles.

re: comment

from: niv (2006-01-20 10:33:41)

the rooftop show is predictable?

you would have said that for anything

go ahead
go ahead and say the monterrey pop festival
like everyone knows you want to

slut

re: well....

from: =z (2006-01-20 10:38:40)

to be fair i was calling the beatles predictable coming from you
and relative to them
the rooftop show is uber predictable
yes
uber

love it

its at least as much of a cop out for a beatles fan to say "the rooftop show" as it is for someone like me to say woodstock or monterrey....is what i'm saying

re: ok bitch

from: niv (2006-01-20 10:44:09)

i think i honestly changed my mind
but this is also to spite zach

this is my number one show ever. two days before badmotorfinger came out. some of the best shit of our teenage years, all on one stage.

suck it

re: and if it has to be somewhere tiny

from: niv (2006-01-20 10:47:15)

this venue seems to be more to my liking.

aic and soundgarden
really hard to beat that

re: oooh

from: =z (2006-01-20 10:51:45)

left hook out of nowhere
and i'm down for the count

 

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